theycallmemiketaylor:

monsterbeard:

distorte:

FOUR MORE YEARS!

I love distorte for things like this.  BRB, calling the Pentagon to see about picking up one of these bad boys for myself!

People who bitch about drones are pussies, in my book. Sorry I’m not sorry I’d rather have a robot in harms way than a living person (especially an American service member).
Well, duh Mike.  I mean, obviously we would like robots in harm’s way rather than living persons, although you got me with the pussy remark (Zing!).  I suppose the real debate is over how do we define “harm’s way”.  Drones are more often than not used to spy on people as opposed to engaging with people, which is something I’m generally not comfortable with.
Also, as much as I’d prefer to not have living people in harm’s way, a robot takes away some of the moral weight of violence.  The risk of actual losses on our side is a natural deterrent against use of force.  Which is a good thing, because it helps us to pause and consider.  If I can just use a joystick to kill a bunch of real people, I might lose the ability to see both the local and global ramifications of warfare.
There’s also the very real risk that our drones will simply be hacked by our enemies (which has already happened).  Theoretically those same drones could be used against us (I’m pretty sure that’s a movie already, or it should be).
Also, there’s the issue of drones being used on civilians, like in the case of the six missing cows.  Most of the 66 countries we’d sell drones to don’t have much foreign spying to do, generally.  So there’s a terrifying and more likely possibility that the drones could be used to watch us while we BBQ or go swimming or have relations in our backyards.  Now, what you do in your backyard is your own business, not the government’s business, which is precisely my point.
I’m happy you’re able to disagree with me, but please consider that there might be reasons beyond your reasons as to why someone may or may not like a remote controlled UAV roaming over the countryside or being sold across the world to governments whose definitions of privacy may or may not be less stringent than our own.

theycallmemiketaylor:

monsterbeard:

distorte:

FOUR MORE YEARS!

I love distorte for things like this.  BRB, calling the Pentagon to see about picking up one of these bad boys for myself!

People who bitch about drones are pussies, in my book. Sorry I’m not sorry I’d rather have a robot in harms way than a living person (especially an American service member).

Well, duh Mike.  I mean, obviously we would like robots in harm’s way rather than living persons, although you got me with the pussy remark (Zing!).  I suppose the real debate is over how do we define “harm’s way”.  Drones are more often than not used to spy on people as opposed to engaging with people, which is something I’m generally not comfortable with.

Also, as much as I’d prefer to not have living people in harm’s way, a robot takes away some of the moral weight of violence.  The risk of actual losses on our side is a natural deterrent against use of force.  Which is a good thing, because it helps us to pause and consider.  If I can just use a joystick to kill a bunch of real people, I might lose the ability to see both the local and global ramifications of warfare.

There’s also the very real risk that our drones will simply be hacked by our enemies (which has already happened).  Theoretically those same drones could be used against us (I’m pretty sure that’s a movie already, or it should be).

Also, there’s the issue of drones being used on civilians, like in the case of the six missing cows.  Most of the 66 countries we’d sell drones to don’t have much foreign spying to do, generally.  So there’s a terrifying and more likely possibility that the drones could be used to watch us while we BBQ or go swimming or have relations in our backyards.  Now, what you do in your backyard is your own business, not the government’s business, which is precisely my point.

I’m happy you’re able to disagree with me, but please consider that there might be reasons beyond your reasons as to why someone may or may not like a remote controlled UAV roaming over the countryside or being sold across the world to governments whose definitions of privacy may or may not be less stringent than our own.

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